Comments on: Why the New Diggbar is FAIL for Bloggers (and Everyone Else) http://human3rror.com/why-the-new-diggbar-is-fail-for-bloggers-and-everyone-else/ i break stuff. Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:30:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: nowneumphttp://human3rror.com/why-the-new-diggbar-is-fail-for-bloggers-and-everyone-else/comment-page-1/#comment-13830 nowneump Wed, 06 May 2009 00:09:41 +0000 http://human3rror.com/?p=2929#comment-13830 hh... thanks hh… thanks

]]> By: nowneumphttp://human3rror.com/why-the-new-diggbar-is-fail-for-bloggers-and-everyone-else/comment-page-1/#comment-13508 nowneump Tue, 05 May 2009 03:43:19 +0000 http://human3rror.com/?p=2929#comment-13508 nice! i'm gonna make my own blog nice! i’m gonna make my own blog

]]> By: human3rrorhttp://human3rror.com/why-the-new-diggbar-is-fail-for-bloggers-and-everyone-else/comment-page-1/#comment-8027 human3rror Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:32:04 +0000 http://human3rror.com/?p=2929#comment-8027 that just closes it, but your blog is still affected, because people are coming to your site through digg and their new bar... read above. that just closes it, but your blog is still affected, because people are coming to your site through digg and their new bar… read above.

]]> By: Cameronhttp://human3rror.com/why-the-new-diggbar-is-fail-for-bloggers-and-everyone-else/comment-page-1/#comment-8025 Cameron Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:24:31 +0000 http://human3rror.com/?p=2929#comment-8025 Hey. Ah, there's a BIG 'X' on the right of the bar. I've found it's even nicer than most others (like hootsuite, etc) as it gives a 'soft' refresh to the page and removes the bar. Hootsuite, etc opens the default link in a new tab/window - but all work that way - simply click the 'x' to close, and it removes the bar. simple. no need to research through google or anything like that :) Hey. Ah, there's a BIG 'X' on the right of the bar. I've found it's even nicer than most others (like hootsuite, etc) as it gives a 'soft' refresh to the page and removes the bar. Hootsuite, etc opens the default link in a new tab/window – but all work that way – simply click the 'x' to close, and it removes the bar. simple. no need to research through google or anything like that :)

]]> By: video gameshttp://human3rror.com/why-the-new-diggbar-is-fail-for-bloggers-and-everyone-else/comment-page-1/#comment-8012 video games Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:26:47 +0000 http://human3rror.com/?p=2929#comment-8012 Webmonkey blog: > Digg is effectively making any links from the Diggbar useless to anyone besides Digg, and the results are evil of the highest order: It steals traffic, obfuscates URLs, pockets a profit and breaks the most basic element of the web: the URL. I've already debunked all of those claims. These are not researched claims, but were just copied and reiterated from the last source to which you linked (Three Dog Media). It doesn't matter how many people copy-paste a false statement or how they word a false statement, it is still false. They do not steal traffic when your page is still receiving page views, and especially when the user is reaching the Diggbar URL *from Digg*. They're stealing their own traffic now? It's not like the links on your site are magically changing to links to Digg's site. If they found your site through your site, it's your traffic, and there is no Diggbar URL. If they found your site through Digg, you should be happy you even got a page load from them. And what's wrong with Digg getting a profit from it? Someone used their service, therefore they deserve a profit. If someone doesn't want to use their service, not only is there an option to disable the Diggbar, they don't even have to use Digg. It's provided as a priviledge, not an Internet right. The profit from the Diggbar is up to the user using the Diggbar. The profit that comes from the Diggbar goes to Digg. The profit that comes from your site goes to your site. The two do not intertwine. Webmonkey blog:
> Digg is effectively making any links from the Diggbar useless to anyone besides Digg, and the results are evil of the highest order: It steals traffic, obfuscates URLs, pockets a profit and breaks the most basic element of the web: the URL.
I’ve already debunked all of those claims. These are not researched claims, but were just copied and reiterated from the last source to which you linked (Three Dog Media). It doesn’t matter how many people copy-paste a false statement or how they word a false statement, it is still false.
They do not steal traffic when your page is still receiving page views, and especially when the user is reaching the Diggbar URL *from Digg*. They’re stealing their own traffic now? It’s not like the links on your site are magically changing to links to Digg’s site. If they found your site through your site, it’s your traffic, and there is no Diggbar URL. If they found your site through Digg, you should be happy you even got a page load from them.
And what’s wrong with Digg getting a profit from it? Someone used their service, therefore they deserve a profit. If someone doesn’t want to use their service, not only is there an option to disable the Diggbar, they don’t even have to use Digg. It’s provided as a priviledge, not an Internet right. The profit from the Diggbar is up to the user using the Diggbar. The profit that comes from the Diggbar goes to Digg. The profit that comes from your site goes to your site. The two do not intertwine.

]]> By: human3rrorhttp://human3rror.com/why-the-new-diggbar-is-fail-for-bloggers-and-everyone-else/comment-page-1/#comment-7986 human3rror Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:49:52 +0000 http://human3rror.com/?p=2929#comment-7986 <a href="http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/The_Diggbar_Is_Evil__Here_s_How_to_Stop_it" target="_blank">http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/The_Diggbar_Is_Evil...</a> I'm not really complaining since I kill iFrames. I'm just saying. They suck. http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/The_Diggbar_Is_Evil...

I'm not really complaining since I kill iFrames. I'm just saying. They suck.

]]> By: human3rrorhttp://human3rror.com/why-the-new-diggbar-is-fail-for-bloggers-and-everyone-else/comment-page-1/#comment-7988 human3rror Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:49:36 +0000 http://human3rror.com/?p=2929#comment-7988 <a href="http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/The_Diggbar_Is_Evil__Here_s_How_to_Stop_it" target="_blank">http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/The_Diggbar_Is_Evil...</a> http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/The_Diggbar_Is_Evil...

]]> By: human3rrorhttp://human3rror.com/why-the-new-diggbar-is-fail-for-bloggers-and-everyone-else/comment-page-1/#comment-7987 human3rror Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:49:27 +0000 http://human3rror.com/?p=2929#comment-7987 <a href="http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/The_Diggbar_Is_Evil__Here_s_How_to_Stop_it" target="_blank">http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/The_Diggbar_Is_Evil...</a> <~~~ great thoughts here. http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/The_Diggbar_Is_Evil... <~~~ great thoughts here.

]]> By: video gameshttp://human3rror.com/why-the-new-diggbar-is-fail-for-bloggers-and-everyone-else/comment-page-1/#comment-7934 video games Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:44:19 +0000 http://human3rror.com/?p=2929#comment-7934 Now, after reading the 3 Dog Media article, it only goes more in the favor of no-harm-done. Digg displays links without the Diggbar URL to search engine spiders (thus giving you PR), and the Diggbar URL to its users. Therefore, you don't even lose PR. How nice of Digg. I think the most confusion comes from your content being seemingly shown on a Digg URL. However, when a search engine crawls a Diggbar page, they do NOT see your content. Therefore they do not attribute the content to Digg. They do not see the content until they enter the frame, which is your URL not Digg's, and therefore the content and all that is yours is attributed to your site and your URL. Just because it's not displayed in the address bar doesn't mean the URL isn't there, and search engines know this. It's no big secret. Some random viewer may be viewing your site from a Diggbar page instead of your actual URL, but what it all boils down to is this: if your page wasn't on Digg, they wouldn't have found it in the first place. It's either the Diggbar URL or no URL. So, does it hurt your PR? No. Does it hurt your SEO? No. Does it hurt your ad revenue? No. Does it steal your content? No. Does it prevent you from viewing the site without the Diggbar? No (again, click the X, or even use the disable-permanently option). So why are you complaining about it? Now, after reading the 3 Dog Media article, it only goes more in the favor of no-harm-done. Digg displays links without the Diggbar URL to search engine spiders (thus giving you PR), and the Diggbar URL to its users. Therefore, you don’t even lose PR. How nice of Digg.
I think the most confusion comes from your content being seemingly shown on a Digg URL. However, when a search engine crawls a Diggbar page, they do NOT see your content. Therefore they do not attribute the content to Digg. They do not see the content until they enter the frame, which is your URL not Digg’s, and therefore the content and all that is yours is attributed to your site and your URL. Just because it’s not displayed in the address bar doesn’t mean the URL isn’t there, and search engines know this. It’s no big secret.
Some random viewer may be viewing your site from a Diggbar page instead of your actual URL, but what it all boils down to is this: if your page wasn’t on Digg, they wouldn’t have found it in the first place. It’s either the Diggbar URL or no URL.
So, does it hurt your PR? No. Does it hurt your SEO? No. Does it hurt your ad revenue? No. Does it steal your content? No. Does it prevent you from viewing the site without the Diggbar? No (again, click the X, or even use the disable-permanently option).
So why are you complaining about it?

]]> By: video gameshttp://human3rror.com/why-the-new-diggbar-is-fail-for-bloggers-and-everyone-else/comment-page-1/#comment-7931 video games Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:32:59 +0000 http://human3rror.com/?p=2929#comment-7931 You guys can go on complaining about something that hurts nothing. As a web designer, I know that frames in no way "steal your content" and that Digg is doing so very legitimately. Hell, no only is there an X to close the Diggbar on that site, but there's an option to disable it permanently if you don't like it. Search engines still see your site and your content as YOUR site and content, and not Digg's, and your ads and ad revenue are still attributed to you and not Digg. All of this is exactly why using iframes isn't illegal, because it isn't stealing content or anything of the like. The ONLY thing you lose is the PageRank help that Digg gives sites due to its superb ranking in Google. This is not something you earned. This is something Digg earned (as it happened prior to the Diggbar) and something that Digg offerred to its users as a priviledge. It isn't lowering your PageRank in any way; it's simply not giving you it, nor is it required to. If you want PR, earn it. Whoring Digg for PR was and always will be a priviledge, not some Internet right. So again, Digg did no damage to any site by including the Diggbar. Nothing was stolen, nothing is changed. If you don't like it, disable it. If you want to whore websites with links to your site in order to get PR, go somewhere other than Digg. If you don't want other sites embedding your content, use the iframe killer. If the only reason you're using the iframe killer is because of the Diggbar, then you need to learn a thing or two about the Internet, browsers, frames, ads, and SEO. You guys can go on complaining about something that hurts nothing. As a web designer, I know that frames in no way “steal your content” and that Digg is doing so very legitimately. Hell, no only is there an X to close the Diggbar on that site, but there’s an option to disable it permanently if you don’t like it. Search engines still see your site and your content as YOUR site and content, and not Digg’s, and your ads and ad revenue are still attributed to you and not Digg. All of this is exactly why using iframes isn’t illegal, because it isn’t stealing content or anything of the like.
The ONLY thing you lose is the PageRank help that Digg gives sites due to its superb ranking in Google. This is not something you earned. This is something Digg earned (as it happened prior to the Diggbar) and something that Digg offerred to its users as a priviledge. It isn’t lowering your PageRank in any way; it’s simply not giving you it, nor is it required to. If you want PR, earn it. Whoring Digg for PR was and always will be a priviledge, not some Internet right.
So again, Digg did no damage to any site by including the Diggbar. Nothing was stolen, nothing is changed. If you don’t like it, disable it. If you want to whore websites with links to your site in order to get PR, go somewhere other than Digg. If you don’t want other sites embedding your content, use the iframe killer. If the only reason you’re using the iframe killer is because of the Diggbar, then you need to learn a thing or two about the Internet, browsers, frames, ads, and SEO.

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